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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:02 pm 
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Leach,

I guess I wasn't thinking so much of documentaries with animal cruelty, but I'm glad you bring the issue up. Do they even exist? Doctor Kotto doesn't count because they proved in the end that it was just a gag, if not a racist gag, and it's half a century old or more anyway. Hit me.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:23 pm 
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LB -
we are still not on the same page, friend. the onus is on you to provide a cogent example of the
kind of on-screen cruelty that you find reprehensible. once that is done, you will still have to
convince me that such is fictional portrayal is guilty by association with real crimes in the real world.
i find your inferences so far fuzzy, indirect and diffuse.
sincerely.
neil.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:17 pm 
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I think I get you now. How about Lucien Littlefield's repeated abuse of that cur in Bulldog Drummond's Revenge? Or something that might hit a little closer to home: Regis Toomey's infamous bull whipping scene in The Dakota Incident? Did you know they shot that scene 17 times to get it just right? Talk about cruelty! That's just off the top of my head, Leach, but you see where this is going I think.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:30 pm 
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I still fail to understand what this topic is about at all. We're going on an animal-rights crusade in all movies because of a deleted scene in Looper?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:40 pm 
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Justin wrote:
I still fail to understand what this topic is about at all. We're going on an animal-rights crusade in all movies because of a deleted scene in Looper?

no. there is no "we". I have been trying to get an understanding of the scope of LB's concern, so far with only limited success.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:18 am 
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I thought it would have been obvious. I guess not. Should I bring up the case of Lance Armstrong and George Hincapie? When major celebrities, i.e. Mr. Johnson, foist filmic depictions of violence on the society, it is the society that will eventually suffer. There are statistics that show this. Please don't tell me I'm the only one here. Please. After the filming of Bulldog Drummond's Revenge, animal violence went through the roof in EVER MAJOR CITY WHERE IT PLAYED. That film provoked our baser instincts and led to an orgy of man-on-animal hate that included the infamous "oil drum burnings" you read about in any pop history of the 30's.

Look, I'm not harping on this issue just because I happen to be the owner of a non-human primate (fully licensed under international law) or spent my life around non-human primates, but because good human character, as I see it, is built around one's respect for life. Bottom line. If Mr. Johnson is willing to show primates (our not-so-distant cousins, btw) getting blown apart by assault rifles to entertain the Europeans, and thereby boost his street cred on the streets of Paris, WHILE making us lesser human beings*, I am willing to take this stand. I would never show this movie, as I have it, around any animals, and certainly not around any children or Citizens of Humanity. I would never inflict that kind of hate on another human being.

Does that explain it? Now?

*my wife has added this: "zombified hounds of violence with the scent of past kills fresh on our snouts"

LB


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:33 pm 
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I'd argue that there is no such thing as "street-cred" in Paris. I don't know what Mr.Johnson is attempting to accomplish in Paris, but I certainly hope it's not street-cred. I believe the only cities in which streed-cred is only credible in the cities of Detroit, Michigan; Chicago, Illinois; Atlanta, Georgia; and Rio de Janeiro. And maybe Compton.

I am interested in seeing this scene with Gobo.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:42 am 
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Good point, Snake. I probably should have put quotes around that. In Paris it's probably "crédit de la rue" or some such thing. Are there any Francophones around?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:06 am 
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Rue cred.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:49 am 
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That sounds a bit flat to my ears.


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