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 Post subject: Joe's Mother
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:26 pm 
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There's a portion of the film where Joe can't remember his own mother. It felt eerily similar to Old Joe experiencing "changed memories". But perhaps it was just a red herring?

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 Post subject: Re: Joe's Mother
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:38 pm 
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I don't remember now if he said how old he was when he left his mother, but I got the impression is was quite young. Not really unreasonable that he wouldn't have any memories of her.

Do you have a theory to go with this observation? What would cause Joe to have changed memories?

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 Post subject: Re: Joe's Mother
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:53 am 
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I just thought Joe was an orphan because Rian was Dickens it up.

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 Post subject: Re: Joe's Mother
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:40 pm 
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Well, he never SAYS that his mother is dead. He also never mentions trying to find her as an adult, so who knows.

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 Post subject: Re: Joe's Mother
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sarahalyse wrote:
Well, he never SAYS that his mother is dead. He also never mentions trying to find her as an adult, so who knows.


Wow. I never realized that.

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 Post subject: Re: Joe's Mother
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:55 pm 
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I think the line was "I can't remember my mother's face"... it's before he goes to the club.
Old Joe talked about not remember people when Time Travel starts to kick in....

Just sort of curious if Rainmaker started to play around with time travel himself (now that his own history was changed)

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 Post subject: Re: Joe's Mother
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Check out the topic I added called. Just saw it....had a strange thought that's a little creepy. This is a pretty twisted idea about joes mother. But you can rewatch the scenes and see if it fits.


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 Post subject: Re: Joe's Mother
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:13 am 
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Joe says his mother was a vagrant drug-addict who sold him to a panhandling gang when he was very young. It's not just "uh I don't remember anything." He only specifically can't remember his mother's face.

I dunno, it's an interesting idea, but I still can't see any reason why this absence of memory would be related to time travel. And I don't think that Sara somehow got access to time travel way earlier than everyone else, sent herself and Cid back in time, became a vagrant drug addict, and sold Cid, who then somehow forgot everything that happened, lost all his wunderkind intelligence, and grew into Joe.

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 Post subject: Re: Joe's Mother
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:07 am 
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I was thinking that Joe was Sid's younger brother. Joe was his own father. Sarah going back in time to abandon joe so he grows up to protect them in the present and conceive himself. Sid getting abandoned again and becoming the rain maker and closes all loops to ensure he remains the rain maker in the future. Just a strange idea to throw in there. I saw the movie once and then made the post. I didn't get to think too much about it at the time. I'm lazy and didn't take the time to apply the ideas of others that put serious thought into it. at one point I thought Sid created time travel and became the rain maker to get control of what he unleashed on the world. maybe I should create time travel to go back and tell myself to keep this stuff in the head and not to write the post. It just appeared that the two characters in he film that were most enlightened were Sarah and the rain maker. Enlightened with the knowledge of good and evil and the parts they play in the grand scheme of things. Sara is the beginning and the rain maker is the end. I wasn't surprised that those characters survived in the end. Thanks for acknowledging this lost souls twisted idea and no offense intended. Peace, love,and honor to all.


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 Post subject: Re: Joe's Mother
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Hey, it's always great to hear new theories, even if I don't agree with them. I probably have a little too much fun tearing them apart, but no offense is meant! Welcome to the forum, I'm glad you dug the movie :)

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 Post subject: Re: Joe's Mother
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:50 am 
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If you like movies that get deep and put the mind on a roller coaster. I suggest two. Revolver and the big empty.I believe Revolver was made in 2005 and the big empty 2003.


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