First off, let me say that I am very happy to have found this forum!
This will be my first post, and I intend for it to be intricate and thought provoking.
Along with many others that saw Looper, I saw a correlation between the characters of Abe and Kid Blue.
I came to the conclusion that Kid Blue is in fact Abe's past self. I have many reasons for this, the main one being the treatment of Kid Blue by Abe and it's similarities to the treatment of Young Joe by Old Joe.
I also see that although Abe fails to treat Young Joe like a son despite essentially raising him, he seems to treat Kid Blue like a belligerent offspring.
Other possible reasons for my conclusion may surface.
Another correlation I found is between Cid and Joe.
The main correlation I see is the lack of a mother in both. Both witnessed the death of their mother (I believe)
My first conclusion is that Cid is actually Joe. They have similar looks to them (in my opinion, green/blue eyes could be do to Drop usage.) Although I would like this to somehow be true, I find it unlikely due to the fact that Joe has no TK ability whatsoever.
Joe also talks about being put on a train by his mom. Seeing his mom be killed. Wanting to kill the bad men.
My second conclusion is that Cid is Joe's son, with his Asian wife, who's name I seem to have forgotten. I have a few reasons for this:
1 - Cid appears to be of mixed race, he has tanned skin, somewhat Asian eyes, but also has caucasian characteristics.
2 - In a scene where Old Joe is remembering his Wife, you can see them smile, and the faint cries of a child.
3 - More may surface.
A correlation between Seth and the boy Joe nearly hits with his sports car at the opening of the film.
ALSO ---- Something that troubled me but is unrelated. Why is it that the Mobsters need the Young Loopers alive to catch the Old Loopers? Seth and Joe were both supposed to be captured alive. If they had killed them, would that not be easier? The Old Loopers would have disappeared like Old Joe does when Young Joe offs himself. I believe there is some unexplained reasoning for this.
Welcome and its nice that you are thinking out loud.....but no, no, and no way.
Abe would suffer any event that Kid Blue would experience (and he doesn't). Also, he directly states that you should never see or talk to your past self.
Cid is Joe?? He's the wrong age and Joe doesn't have kids.
Cid is Joe's son??
There's a better chance that Joe could have fathered a kid with Suzie (Piper). If Joe had a kid, he would have known his birthday, don't you think. And its doubtful an 8 year-old has a time machine.But, what are the odds of Suzie having a kid born the same day and same hospital as Sara (Emily)?