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 Post subject: Two films, one Abe?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:41 am 
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Someone posted a theory that Abe from Primer and Abe from Looper are the same guy. I admit freely that I didn't even begin to understand Primer, so I couldn't argue whether I think this is true...but it seems like a solid theory.

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 Post subject: Re: Two films, one Abe?
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This is such an unbelievably awesome idea. I would buy this box set.

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I think Abe from Looper, Primer, and Lincoln are the same person.

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 Post subject: Re: Two films, one Abe?
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Really, it's a fun idea, but there's not much to support it inside either of the films - the name, time travel, the rest is speculation. Also, not sure if the ages work. If Primer's Abe roughly 30, he would naturally be 70 by the events of Looper (assuming Primer takes place around the time it was shot). So how is he an old man during Looper, but also "from the future"?

Doesn't really add up. Would have been a neat trick, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Two films, one Abe?
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tsukasa13 wrote:
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Really, it's a fun idea, but there's not much to support it inside either of the films - the name, time travel, the rest is speculation. Also, not sure if the ages work. If Primer's Abe roughly 30, he would naturally be 70 by the events of Looper (assuming Primer takes place around the time it was shot). So how is he an old man during Looper, but also "from the future"?

Doesn't really add up. Would have been a neat trick, though.

Also, the functioning of time-travel is entirely different. If Looper took place in the same universe as Primer then Joe killing himself at the end would have done precisely fuck all to stop Old Joe, as in Primer paradoxes are seen to be either functionally impossible or functionally irrelevant.


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 Post subject: Re: Two films, one Abe?
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tsukasa13 wrote:
Doesn't really add up. Would have been a neat trick, though.


Marc retains his title as "Best At Working Brick References Into Everything Ever."

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 Post subject: Re: Two films, one Abe?
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I love this so much that I'm not going to say anything about it.


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EXCLU! Rian Johnson declines to shoot down rumors of connection between Primer, Looper!


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 Post subject: Re: Two films, one Abe?
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Lack of evidence proves link between Looper and Primer.

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 Post subject: Re: Two films, one Abe?
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tsukasa13 wrote:
If Primer's Abe roughly 30, he would naturally be 70 by the events of Looper (assuming Primer takes place around the time it was shot). So how is he an old man during Looper, but also "from the future"?
Because he traveled in time to the future.

(Keeping this going)

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 Post subject: Re: Two films, one Abe?
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So I guess I should see Primer, huh?

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 Post subject: Re: Two films, one Abe?
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T-jones wrote:
So I guess I should see Primer, huh?


At least twice.

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 Post subject: Re: Two films, one Abe?
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Watch it the second time first.

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 Post subject: Re: Two films, one Abe?
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aaaaaaand SCENE


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 Post subject: Re: Two films, one Abe?
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I think Abe from Looper, Primer, and Lincoln are the same person.


Ha! damn straight :lol:


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