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 Post subject: What's a Success?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:28 pm 
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So according to Wikipedia, this movie cost $20 million to make, but as of now it's only made about $3.5 million of that back. From general observation, most films with that kind of budget get an actual release across the country, an at least a thousand theaters, and make that back rather quickly. The Brothers Bloom is certainly good enough to, and it's great enough that it deserves to do that and more, but it seems like it's just trudging around trying to nickle and dime its way to success. Let the people come!

What's the plan behind this? Are they trying to not make money? Rian, you already said in another topic that you were already paid for your work in this movie, but are you ever concerned with its box office performance? Do you consider it successful because of what it's done on such a limited release, or are you bothered that it hasn't gotten a wider release (Feel free to not say anything that might get you in trouble here)?

Is there any particular motivation for releasing it as it has been?

Sorry, it's just been bugging me lately that I can't just go to my local theater and see this with some friends again.

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 Post subject: Re: What's a Success?
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Not to sound like a dick (you've had more posts than me) but talking about money and business ( instead of the film or its quality ) seems a bit out of place here. Perhaps to save some time, domestic theatrical sales rarely account for anything when speaking in terms of independent cinema ( foreign presales probably make up the majority of the budget before production begins).

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 Post subject: Re: What's a Success?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:14 am 
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Actually it's a very good question.

I'm not sure how totally open I can be about the answer, though. Suffice to say that, considering the theatrical release and marketing support that Summit gave Bloom, I think we did pretty good, and definitely better than they (Summit) expected. We were always sort of the red headed step child in their line-up, the "strange child" they didn't really understand or know how to market, and (this is my perception) they never really believed the film had theatrical potential. I think they were just hoping to hold their nose and get through the theatrical release spending as little money as possible. Which they did.

So the next step is the DVD release, and their plan is to get more exposure on rentals by doing a rental-only window, where you can't buy the film for the first few months. This will get us more support from the rental places, because they're giving them an "exclusive", which will hopefully mean more DVDs on shelves, more posters up at Blockbuster and more people seeing the movie.


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 Post subject: Re: What's a Success?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:41 am 
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hackattack wrote:
Not to sound like a dick (you've had more posts than me) but talking about money and business ( instead of the film or its quality ) seems a bit out of place here. Perhaps to save some time, domestic theatrical sales rarely account for anything when speaking in terms of independent cinema ( foreign presales probably make up the majority of the budget before production begins).


There are already plenty of topics discussing how much we all love Rian's movies

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I'm not sure how totally open I can be about the answer, though.


I understand. The first time I saw clips of the film, and when I saw a couple of commercials on television, I had no problem seeing Bloom being a standard wide release that people would go in to see (that was actually my impression about until it actually came out). God knows advertising execs don't mind outright lying to consumers, they could have advertised it like an Oceans 11/Italian Job movie and been covered in a week.

Oh well, I happen to know that the 'rental only' strategy works quite well. At least on me. I've rented a ton of movies from Blockbuster doing that, mostly because they stick out more for being 'exclusive'. I also tend to talk about those movies more to others than standard releases. Then again, I don't think I've ever liked a single one of them, but that doesn't seem to have stopped me from still renting them. I can only imagine what a movie I actually loved might do.

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 Post subject: Re: What's a Success?
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We welcome all angles discussing Rian's films, from "it rocks" to "it sucks," from "what's your process" to "what'd it cost us."

You see what I did there?

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 Post subject: Re: What's a Success?
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She's worth every cent you pay her, Rian.

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 Post subject: Re: What's a Success?
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With all due respect, miss "moderator" that is an entirely voluntary provision that simply increases the information offered to rian's forum members. It's gratifying that the voice of the people is getting through to this forum however, that provision was not the only disturbing detail in this legislation; it was just one of the more obvious ones. I fear that this rule is going to cause more "Death Panels" for the everyday, hard-workin' American that loves their red,white, and blue and wasn't born in Kenya traveling to rcjohnso ... forum leaders will take the easy road and totally make tons of fun at any haters of rian's films, ending their life on this forum much too soon. That could affect hundreds if not dozens of our loyal senior citizens that helped build our struggling economy.

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 Post subject: Re: What's a Success?
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What sort of resume do you think you need to get on one of these "Death Panels"? Sounds like a pretty good gig.

Nice post, h...

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 Post subject: Re: What's a Success?
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Hell, no, to the socialistic death panels!

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 Post subject: Re: What's a Success?
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From Hollywood Bitchslap:

For Best Actor:

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NAMES VOTING GROUPS SHOULD NOT OVERLOOK
Adrien Brody (The Brothers Bloom), Sharlto Copley (District 9), John Krasinski (Away We Go), John Malkovich (The Great Buck Howard),Max Records (Where the Wild Things Are), Sam Rockwell (Moon), Adam Sandler (Funny People), Michael Jai White (Black Dynamite), Robin Williams (World's Greatest Dad)


For Best Actress:

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9. Rachel Weisz (The Brothers Bloom) - In a perfect world at least her work would be remembered.


http://www.hollywoodbitchslap.com/featu ... ature=2870

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