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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:17 am 
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yeah, i know. but relax. he makes an exceptionally perceptive point
which actually covers his own faux pas [a pretty neat trick] :

Does the movie work on its own terms as a crime story? Yes, in the sense
that the classic Hollywood noirs worked: The story is never clear while it
unfolds, but it provides a rich source of dialogue, behavior and incidents.
Then, at the end, if it doesn't all hold water, who cares as long as all of the
characters think it does? "The Big Sleep" is famous for the loophole of a killer
who is already dead when he commits his crime. At the Madison Film Festival
last weekend, I saw "Laura" again, and was reminded it is entirely a movie
about atmosphere, dialogue and acting styles, in which the very realities of
murder are arbitrary. It makes no difference who committed the central killing;
what's important is that everyone acts as if it does.


"does it work on its own terms?" should be the first, and often only , question
asked when evaluating any work of art. the worth of a work has nothing to
do with art history, it has nothing to do with precedent or current style,
it has nothing to do with the tastes or perceptive abilities of the viewer.
all of these things will probably impact the financial benefits which accrue to
the film maker, but have zero to do with the integrity and power of the work
itself. i love 'brick' because it is a thoroughly marinated movie. as Rian has
said in interviews, he had 6 years to plan this movie and speak at length
with principal collaborators. that fully orbed dimension of vision is crystal
clear in each shot. what i see in each camera angle and line of dialog is
six years worth of work by more than a few highly talented and artistically
dedicated individuals. how often do you get to see such a movie? i can't
remember another one from whatever hot-shot director or mega-buck
budget. not one.
best wishes to all brick heads.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:30 am 
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Guess what's opening 5/15 four blocks from where I live?

Rian, too bad you're committed to LA, huh?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:08 pm 
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Nooooo! Max! You have to come to LA for the opening! I need to bask in your glorious presence!

You can gauge my need by the number of sentences in the post ending in exclamation marks!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:32 pm 
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!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

*pause to gather breath*

!!!!!!! !!!!! !one


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:25 pm 
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maxfrost wrote:


What what wait - aren't you in San Francisco? If not, why did I always assume that? Was it your alt-comic avatar? And if you ARE in San Francisco, how did I not know that Bloom was opening there? And how do you know? SO MANY QUESTIONS!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:33 pm 
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The great MaxFrost knows all, sees all!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:09 pm 
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All I know is what I read on the internets.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:12 am 
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I am against the new release date, as an indepdent observer and globe-trotting artiste of independent means........and here's why:

When a director makes a movie, with all the meaning attached to the film's story and it's relationship to the time the movie was made, and the director's career, the movie should be released as soon as possible without care or consideration to purely money profit reasons. This is sick. Mr Johnson made a movie, it should have been released and SEEN by movie goers last December 2008....and holding it back is completely irresponsible and reprehensible. Summit is wrong wrong wrong.

When a writer writes a novel, it is published as soon as possible in terms of marketing and sales reps getting the book to bookstores, and usually this means about a six month lag time between the book being delivered to the editor and readers seeing it in bookstores, even though the entire process might have taken 2 to 5 years. But once the book is finished and handed in and edited, it comes out as soon as possible thereater....

To hold a completed movie back for purely financiayl reasons is one reason why the movie business doesn't know it's XXX from its XXXX. Sad. Sigh.

Rian, you been screwed by the powers that be. At least you have a good attitude about this and I salute you, sir. But Summit is wrong. A movie cannot be held back just to fit into the bottom line of the bottom line people. Sucks. The is made. It should be shown in movie theaters. NOW.

I protest. And I am a Bloom, too!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:43 am 
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i most heartily agree, Mr. Dan Bloom, dear and oh so assuredly kind sir.
the flip side of that particular mint is that 'things' have been/are/can be
a whole sight worse. i and thousands of other seriously interested persons
waited well over a year for a particular music CD to get from point A to point
B ... a journey which, as you have succinctly noted, don't take that long.
'Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something. '
~ [the dread pirate] Westley
c'est la guerre.
in less than one month the whole brouhaha will be history and merry
once more the makers shall be, which is poor sentence structure, but ...
there you are.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:00 pm 
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That dead horse already floated by under the bridge on a river of spilled milk. Let's look forward, not back: a mere couple of weeks (ok, 3 or 5, depending on your proximity) and Bloom will be ours!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:26 pm 
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critter wrote:
in less than one month the whole brouhaha will be history and merry
once more the makers shall be.


Amen, brutha.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:17 pm 
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This is Looper, right? Are we talkin' about Looper?

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:44 am 
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Hmmm...more theaters will be showing Bloom, today (29th) right? Wish I could find a list of all the places it's showing....I've been looking forward to the 29th ever since months ago. I can't watch Bloom (I live in Brazil) but I'm trying to get all my friends in the US to watch it. :D

I tried the Fandango link at the main website, but it didn't show up that many showtimes (even for places like "Portland, OR") ... so I used this Zap2it website to find more showtimes/theater names.

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